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Some recent examples of requests for help from members of the public.

Half Pint Tulip Mug

Enquiry

 

Dear Sir or Madam

 I am contacting you in regard to a piece of pewter that I have and would like help identifying the marks. 

 I believe it to be a rummer and all I know is that my grandfather purchased it many years ago in Brighton. It is 90mms high and about 65mms diameter.

 There are some photos attached in this and an additional email.

 I do hope that you are able to help.

 Many thanks

Mug Verification Mark

Answer from the enquiry team

This is a fine old cast pewter footed ‘tulip’ shaped pub half pint which has travelled considerably, mainly around Norfolk, possibly with the same publican over many years evidenced by the rich ‘harvest’ of Excise Marks struck around its mid-rift.    It has a decorative  fillet around that mid-rift and a double scroll or ‘broken’ handle.

 

The ‘portcullis’ however was struck by the authorities in the County of London before 1878 when confirming that it was not giving short measure at all.    The “crown VR over 550”  was struck in the County of Norfolk after 1878. But the most interesting is the one unusually struck under the base which may be clearer to you but looks like either “Crown over W4W” or “WWW” ( approx.) for which the most likely interpretation is Watchet Boro. & Williton Manor or even possibly Westmorland County  -   before 1878.      

 If you look in the inside of the base you may find the makers mark (k/as a touch mark) amid all the oxide and crud which accumulates there over time. This could possibly help dating the mug more accurately.   Gently probing with a soft piece of wood such as a lolly stick so as not to damage any writing that may be there may help and if this is successful do not hesitate to come back for further information. Otherwise there may be just a “Crown X” quality mark.

The assessment below is based on the best information available to us at present, but we cannot guarantee its accuracy as we have not inspected the item, and our knowledge of pewter and pewterers is constantly expanding.  It is for your personal information only and any information given cannot be used in connection with the sale or offer for sale of any item about which the information is solicited.

Whilst our service is free, the database we used to answer your query costs us thousands of pounds a year to run.  If you would like to make a small donation towards this cost (preferably in pounds sterling), you can do so via PayPal to treasurer@pewtersociety.org.  We'll be very grateful!

We were pleased to receive your enquiry.  We welcome new members and if you would like to join our Society, full details can be found on our website: www.pewtersociety.org .  We post some enquiries anonymously in the "recent enquires" section of our website, and we hope you won't mind if we select yours for this.

Fox Inn Pint Tankard

ENQUIRY

 

Hi,

 

I have a tankard that I inherited from my Grandmother. I’ve tried to look for details but am having trouble finding particulars about it. 

Any information you can give me would be helpful. 

I’ve attached some picture of the stamps and details. 

Regards 

Verification mark on Fox Inn Pint Tankard

Answer from the enquiry team

This is a magnificent straight sided cast pewter pint tavern mug with the name of the hostelry where it served many years engraved on the front which looks like W.Foker  “Fox Inn” Ingrave Road Brentwood, Essex, UK sometime in the nineteenth century and there is a further decorative ring under the inscription .

The makers mark in the base is C Watkins Horselydown .

 There are also some ownership marks struck by a previous owner on the thumbpiece of the handle.  The Excise Mark VR 115  is a Victorian one struck in Buckingham after 1878.

C Watkins touch mark

The assessment below is based on the best information available to us at present, but we cannot guarantee its accuracy as we have not inspected the item, and our knowledge of pewter and pewterers is constantly expanding.  It is for your personal information only and any information given cannot be used in connection with the sale or offer for sale of any item about which the information is solicited.

Whilst our service is free, the database we used to answer your query costs us thousands of pounds a year to run.  If you would like to make a small donation towards this cost (preferably in pounds sterling), you can do so via PayPal to treasurer@pewtersociety.org.  We'll be very grateful!

We were pleased to receive your enquiry.  We welcome new members and if you would like to join our Society, full details can be found on our website: www.pewtersociety.org .  We post some enquiries anonymously in the "recent enquires" section of our website, and we hope you won't mind if we select yours for this.

Cast measure

Enquiry

Good Afternoon,

My wife’s parents recently passed away and they collected some antique pewter items. We were told they may even be from the revolutionary war time frame. 

Would you be able to tell us what this object is and what all the markings mean?  This is very foreign to us and have no idea what all the symbols and marking mean. 

 We have attached several pictures so you can see what the symbols are. 

 We greatly appreciate any information you can share. 

ER over 54 mark

Answer from the enquiry team

This is an Irish cast pewter baluster measure with various Excise Marks struck by the authorities when verifying the capacity to ensure the Irish publican was not giving short measure in the spirits he sold using it.   Some are unidentified but ‘ER over 54’ was struck in Chester County between 1901 -1910 and  (VG 5 over 103?) if correct, in the County of Lancashire in late Victorian times ie., 1878- 1901.    

 

 

VR Verification Mark

The assessment above/below is based on the best information available to us at present, but we cannot guarantee its accuracy as we have not inspected the item, and our knowledge of pewter and pewterers is constantly expanding.  It is for your personal information only and any information given cannot be used in connection with the sale or offer for sale of any item about which the information is solicited.

 Whilst our service is free, the database we used to answer your query costs us thousands of pounds a year to run.  If you would like to make a small donation towards this cost (preferably in pounds sterling), you can do so via PayPal to treasurer@pewtersociety.org.  We'll be very grateful!

We were pleased to receive your enquiry.  We welcome new members and if you would like to join our Society, full details can be found on our website: www.pewtersociety.org .  We post some enquiries anonymously in the "recent enquires" section of our website, and we hope you won't mind if we select yours for this.

Pair of Plates

ENQUIRY

 

 

Hello,  I purchased these two pewter plates at a flea market  in Georgia, USA. They are 9 3/4 inches. On the back of each plate is a mark which looks like a rose or some sort of flower with a crown over it. Over the top of the crown is engraved “Made”. Around the bottom of the flower it is engraved “In London”. Over the top of the crown is an “X”. The white label on the top of the plates says “Set of ten pewter George 3rd plates, 9 3/4” Made in England, c. 1780-1800”. The label is from a department store in Atlanta, Georgia, and it looks to be 1940’s or 1950’s. 

Any help you can give in identifying the marks will be appreciated. 

Thank you,

Harton London Label

Answer from the enquiry team

 

These are a pair of cast pewter plain rimmed plates which bear the rose and crown ‘ London’ label of two associated pewterers, namely Watts & Harton who were active in Aldgate, London 1836-1862 and Harton & Son active 1863-90 who were in Shoe Lane, London.    A third, described as a  ‘furnishing ironmonger’ is listed as using this mark 1817-1864 but he was probably not making pewter but selling the wares of associates. 

The assessment below is based on the best information available to us at present, but we cannot guarantee its accuracy as we have not inspected the item, and our knowledge of pewter and pewterers is constantly expanding.  It is for your personal information only and any information given cannot be used in connection with the sale or offer for sale of any item about which the information is solicited.

Whilst our service is free, the database we used to answer your query costs us thousands of pounds a year to run.  If you would like to make a small donation towards this cost (preferably in pounds sterling), you can do so via PayPal to treasurer@pewtersociety.org.  We'll be very grateful!

We were pleased to receive your enquiry.  We welcome new members and if you would like to join our Society, full details can be found on our website: www.pewtersociety.org .  We post some enquiries anonymously in the "recent enquires" section of our website, and we hope you won't mind if we select yours for this.

Barber's Bowl

ENQUIRY

 

Hello

      I have always been interested in older pewter items of 200 years or more.

 This bowl was at an estate sale here in Texas at a price I found hard to pass, so I bought it.

Can anyone help me gain more information about where this piece originated?

 

It's 9 1/2" across and has a ring mounted under the rim (to hang it I presume).

Thanks for any help identifying.

Barber's Bowl Inscription

Answer from the enquiry team

 

This is a magnificent cast pewter barbers bowl, most probably of European origin, with a dated ownership crest for 1764 engraved on the top rim incorporating the initials “M over G(?) HW over GS”. There is a shield touch mark of a bird with the initials “A.R.” struck on the reverse which has not been traced.  

 

We are pleased to have received your enquiry.  We welcome new members and if you think in the future that you would like to join our Society, full details can be found on our website:

The assessment below is based on the best information available to us at present, but we cannot guarantee its accuracy as we have not inspected the item, and our knowledge of pewter and pewterers is constantly expanding.  It is for your personal information only and any information given cannot be used in connection with the sale or offer for sale of any item about which the information is solicited.

Whilst our service is free, the database we used to answer your query costs us thousands of pounds a year to run.  If you would like to make a small donation towards this cost (preferably in pounds sterling), you can do so via PayPal to treasurer@pewtersociety.org.  We'll be very grateful!

We were pleased to receive your enquiry.  We welcome new members and if you would like to join our Society, full details can be found on our website: www.pewtersociety.org .  We post some enquiries anonymously in the "recent enquires" section of our website, and we hope you won't mind if we select yours for this.

Miniature Plate

ENQUIRY

I have recently purchased this miniature pewter plate advertised as being 18th century. I'm new to antique collecting and probably very gullible so I wanted a second opinion on the age and origin. It is unmarked and plain so its difficult to find any information online. I am located in the US and I bought it on Ebay in an auction for $22. It is 8.2cm/3.25inch in diameter, and it weighs 59 grams. Thanks for any insight you can provide. 

Miniature Plate Rear

Answer from the enquiry team

Such saucer sized single rimmed cast pewter dishes were usually made around the turn of the twentieth century and sold when the interest in old pewter wares first started to be popular to fulfil a need. This, however, appears to have accumulated signs of genuine wear from the knife marks on the working surface and the back and possibly made earlier in the eighteenth or nineteenth century by an unknown pewterer.

The assessment below is based on the best information available to us at present, but we cannot guarantee its accuracy as we have not inspected the item, and our knowledge of pewter and pewterers is constantly expanding.  It is for your personal information only and any information given cannot be used in connection with the sale or offer for sale of any item about which the information is solicited.

Whilst our service is free, the database we used to answer your query costs us thousands of pounds a year to run.  If you would like to make a small donation towards this cost (preferably in pounds sterling), you can do so via PayPal to treasurer@pewtersociety.org.  We'll be very grateful!

We were pleased to receive your enquiry.  We welcome new members and if you would like to join our Society, full details can be found on our website: www.pewtersociety.org .  We post some enquiries anonymously in the "recent enquires" section of our website, and we hope you won't mind if we select yours for this.

Richardson Teapot?

ENQUIRY

 

Hi! The story of this pewter pot is that it was passed down from eldest daughter to eldest daughter (though that was not always the case), coming over to Massachusetts on the Mayflower with Richard Warren. I would love to have some sense of the date of this pot to see if there is any accuracy to this story. I currently live in Medford, OR, but my grandmother received this from her father (his mother died in childbirth) in French Lick, IN. Her father was John Southern Taylor, his mother Mary Clementine Southern, her mother Mary Clorinda Pierce, her father George Ricks Pierce, his mother Mary Spooner, her father Benjamin S Spooner, his father Benjamin Spooner, his mother Sarah Warren, her father Nathaniel Warren, back to his father Richard Warren, who was written to have been born around 1579 in London, England. The pot is about 6 in tall and about 7.5 in. from handle edge to spout. I don’t see any markings on it. Thank you for any help you can give me in estimating age and location of origin.

Teapot Lid

Answer from the enquiry team

 

This is, indeed, an early Britannia Metal teapot made by an unknown pewterer. Britannia Metal is pewter by definition but contains no lead in the alloy and first evolved in the latter part of the eighteenth century. B.M. can be formed into much sheets thinner than cast pewter as the lid of this pot demonstrates around the hinge etc.,  The first pewter teapot was made in the USA by a pewterer called George Richardson after 1818 and this is very much in the same shape indeed and might be one of his. The style of the handle is very similar.  But sadly not made before the Pilgrim Fathers !

The assessment below is based on the best information available to us at present, but we cannot guarantee its accuracy as we have not inspected the item, and our knowledge of pewter and pewterers is constantly expanding.  It is for your personal information only and any information given cannot be used in connection with the sale or offer for sale of any item about which the information is solicited.

Whilst our service is free, the database we used to answer your query costs us thousands of pounds a year to run.  If you would like to make a small donation towards this cost (preferably in pounds sterling), you can do so via PayPal to treasurer@pewtersociety.org.  We'll be very grateful!

We were pleased to receive your enquiry.  We welcome new members and if you would like to join our Society, full details can be found on our website: www.pewtersociety.org .  We post some enquiries anonymously in the "recent enquires" section of our website, and we hope you won't mind if we select yours for this.