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Some recent examples of requests for help from members of the public.

Alderson Pint Mug

Enquiry

I’ve just gained a pewter tankard, I was hoping you may be able to help with the markings? It is a bit bashed up with a broken handle, but it’s fascinating! Stands about 6.5 inches high.

Answer from the enquiry team

This is a good, early nineteenth century ‘tulip’ cast pewter pub drinking mug with a “C” handle and thumb piece, mid body decorative fillet and excise marks indicating it has given good service having travelled around the country possibly with different landlords over many years. It might just be pre-Imperial pint size of 20 fl. ozs to the pint ie made before 1826.The “ WR crowned “ mark is an Excise Mark, struck by the authorities each time it was verified for correct capacity to ensure the landlord was not giving short measure and struck in the reign of William IV , 1830-1837 or very early in the reign of Queen Victoria. The “YNR over G” indicates North Riding of Yorkshire and the portcullis London both later but pre 1878. The “hallmarks” are by the pewterer George Alderson of Carnaby Street in London who became Sir George Alderson in 1817 being Sheriff of London, they normally marked mugs with 3 lions for half a pint and 4 lions for a pint . He died in 1826 but it may have been made by his successor Thomas Alderson who made the coronation banquet for George IV.   If restored it will have a fair amount of lead in the alloy and might not be suitable for drinking due to the lead content in the alloy.   The scratched name “A.Williams” on the base is the informal ownership mark of a previous owner.

 

We believe the information above to be sound but we cannot guarantee this as we have not inspected the item, and our knowledge of pewter and pewterers is constantly being updated by new research.   It is for the sole use of the owner of the item(s) in question to advance his/her knowledge/and under the terms of the offer displayed on the Pewter Society website and any information given cannot be used in connection with the sale or offer for sale of any item about which the information is solicited. It is expressly forbidden for any mention of the Pewter Society or any of its named members to be used in connection with any such sale or offer for sale or in descriptive text

Mudge Inhailer

ENQUIRY

 

Can you please help identify the markings on this pewter Mudge Inhaler (6 inches tall) ?

I am a collector of medical antiques and I can't seem to figure out the dating and hallmark on this.

I have scoured the net and I am having a real real hard time.  My silver antiques seem to be much easier to identify. Anything you can add is greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

Mudge inhailer hallmarks

Answer from the enquiry team

 

This Mudge inhaler bears the “hallmarks” of Henry Joseph of New Street, St. Brides, London who was a master of the Pewterers Company in 1771 and operative from 1736 until 1792.  He also struck this mark in associate with Richard Joseph.  It would originally have had a flexible extension to the spout and it is good to see it still retains the small perforated swivel lid.   

 

We believe the information above to be sound but we cannot guarantee this as we have not inspected the item, and our knowledge of pewter and pewterers is constantly being updated by new research.   It is for the sole use of the owner of the item(s) in question to advance his/her knowledge/and under the terms of the offer displayed on the Pewter Society website and any information given cannot be used in connection with the sale or offer for sale of any item about which the information is solicited. It is expressly forbidden for any mention of the Pewter Society or any of its named members to be used in connection with any such sale or offer for sale or in descriptive text

 

Tankard with Weeks's Engraved on front

Enquiry

Can you give me any details of a tankard I have just purchased?

The tankard is inscribed with the name Weeks's and underneath it lists the name of a public house The Three Spies, 11 Great Windmill Street,  N. It is possible that it belonged to a Thomas Weeks who owned the Museum of Mechanical Curiosities in Tichborne Street, London back in the early 1800s. 

 The tankard is 11.5cm tall and the base is just under 9cm across. It weighs 550 gm so is heavy! It appears to be dated 1826.

Tankard verification mark

Answer from the enquiry team

 

Any information supplied represents an opinion based on the original information and/or images provided and whilst we believe that the information below to be sound, we cannot guarantee this as we have not inspected the item, and our knowledge of pewter and pewterers is constantly being updated by new research   It is for the sole use of the owner of the item(s) in question to advance his/her knowledge/and under the terms of the offer displayed on the Pewter Society website and any information given cannot be used in connection with the sale or offer for sale of any item about which the information is solicited. It is expressly forbidden for any mention of the Pewter Society or any of its named members to be used in connection with any such sale or offer for sale or in descriptive text. Please note we reserve the right to use your enquiry anonymously in our recent enquires section on the website

 

This is a cast pewter truncated cone pint tavern mug with a “C” handle bearing an early nineteenth century portcullis Excise Mark for London and with the ownership inscription “Weeks’s” on the body.  There is another possible Excise Mark to the right of the handle which is too detrited to be able to make out the details for identification.

 

If you look in the inside of the base you may find the makers mark (k/as a touch mark) amid all the oxide and crud which accumulates there over time.  Gently probing with a soft piece of wood such as a lolly stick so as not to damage any writing that may be there may help and if this is successful do not hesitate to come back for further information.

 

 

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Porringer marks

ENQUIRY

 

 

Can you help me identifying the marks on my pewter porringer.

 

 

Answer from the enquiry team

 

The faint hallmarks are almost certainly those of Bush & Perkins of Bristol active around 1775 but widely found on reproductions made in the early nineteenth century which , without seeing the porringer in question, it has not been possible to check the validity. These pewterers were not known to have made porringers which normally date from the previous century.    The London mark possibly indicates it is a later reproduction

Any information supplied represents an opinion based on the original information and/or images provided and whilst we believe that the information below to be sound, we cannot guarantee this as we have not inspected the item, and our knowledge of pewter and pewterers is constantly being updated by new research   It is for the sole use of the owner of the item(s) in question to advance his/her knowledge/and under the terms of the offer displayed on the Pewter Society website and any information given cannot be used in connection with the sale or offer for sale of any item about which the information is solicited. It is expressly forbidden for any mention of the Pewter Society or any of its named members to be used in connection with any such sale or offer for sale or in descriptive text.

 

 

Mug Hallmarks

ENQUIRY

 

Hi,

Please could you help identify these pewter marks for me? The jug is also impressed W R, under the hallmarks pictured, photo 2.  I think "W R" is William IV who succeeded George IV his brother, in 1830. His initials are impressed with the Imperial Standard lettering. There is also a maker's mark ending in  "& CO". I acquired this locally a week ago in Leigh, Lancashire.

Thanking you,

Complete Mug with pewter marks

Answer from the enquiry team

This is a cast pewter truncated cone tavern mug bearing the “hallmarks” of Ingram and Hunt, of Bewdley active 1778-1807 which was before the Imperial pint of 20 ounces became a standard which implies a problem . George IV reigned from 1820- 1830 which covered the introduction of the Imperial standard in 1826.  I understand Ingram and Hunt’s mark were being used by later pewterers  some of whom inherited his moulds, other merely selling his wares I don't think that it is & Co in the final hallmark image. I think that it is a worn version of a lions head.

Any information supplied represents an opinion based on the original information and/or images provided and whilst we believe that the information below to be sound, we cannot guarantee this as we have not inspected the item, and our knowledge of pewter and pewterers is constantly being updated by new research   It is for the sole use of the owner of the item(s) in question to advance his/her knowledge/and under the terms of the offer displayed on the Pewter Society website and any information given cannot be used in connection with the sale or offer for sale of any item about which the information is solicited. It is expressly forbidden for any mention of the Pewter Society or any of its named members to be used in connection with any such sale or offer for sale or in descriptive text.